Cause and effect are not universal, but relative.
On the other hand, the universality of cause and effect is only relative, not absolute, because wherever it is (universally)
found, it is within the context of a particular system or framework. The concept of cause and effect varies across different disciplines, perspectives, and scales, making it relative rather than universally absolute.
RELATIVELY ADAPTABLE
@Seremonia
So something is relative, which does not mean that it is doubtful whether it is right or wrong, but that something is relative, which means you need to be aware of how to adapt to it which is relative
Exactly, relativity doesn’t imply uncertainty or moral ambiguity. Instead, it emphasizes the need for adaptability and understanding within a given context, acknowledging that situations may vary and require different approaches.
RELATIVE DIVERSITY
@Seremonia
That's why relative does not mean there are no limits, but rather its flexibility emphasizes the diversity of possibilities that are still within limits
Absolutely. Relativity recognizes limits but underscores the diverse range of possibilities within those boundaries. It’s about navigating within defined constraints while allowing for adaptability and flexibility in the face of varying circumstances.
LIMIT OF RELATIVE
@Seremonia
This also means that there is a relative range of how far the relative cannot exceed a certain limit. And a certain limit that cannot be exceeded by pure possibility
Precisely. Relative limits set the boundaries within which possibilities exist, and there’s a defined range for variation. This recognition of constraints ensures that even within the realm of relativity, there are parameters that cannot be surpassed solely through the realm of possibility.
ABSOLUTE AS A FOUNDATION OF RELATIVE
@Seremonia
It also means that because the absolute is the furthest limit to relative possibilities, the absolute becomes the basis for the relative.
Indeed, the absolute serves as the foundational limit for relative possibilities. It establishes a boundary that frames and defines the scope of the relative, providing a fundamental framework within which variations and adaptations can occur.
THE FOUNDATION OF ABSOLUTE
@Seremonia
Then how to understand absolutes rationally? Absoluteness is rationally realized in "logical consequences". Why? Because of the sequence in consequences
Rationally understanding absolutes involves recognizing logical consequences. The sequence of consequences provides a structured framework through which the absolute is comprehended, aligning with a logical and reasoned understanding of the inherent nature and implications of absolutes.
SCIENTIFIC - EMPIRICAL
@Seremonia
Empirical evidence involves causal observations or attempts to find causal relationships.
Correct. In the scientific realm, empirical evidence relies on observations and experiments to establish or discern causal relationships. This empirical approach enhances the reliability and objectivity of scientific findings by grounding them in observable and measurable phenomena.
SCIENTIFIC LOGICAL CONSEQUENCES
@Seremonia
Because logical consequences underlie the cause-effect relationship so that if a logical consequence is realized, then without observation it is already knowledge
Indeed, logical consequences form the foundation of the cause-and-effect relationship in scientific reasoning. When a logical consequence is deduced or understood, it contributes to knowledge, even without direct observation, emphasizing the role of rational inference in scientific understanding.
METAPHYSICS
When a logical consequence is felt to be strange, or seems metaphysical beyond reason, it is actually not beyond reason, but they think it needs observation because they think it is still in the realm of cause-and-effect that requires observation. This is because generally they cannot distinguish between the cause-and-effect underlying empiricism and the logical consequences underlying cause-and-effect.
Scientists and philosophers generally cannot distinguish between cause-and-effect and logical consequences.
The challenge often lies in distinguishing between empirical cause-and-effect relationships and the logical consequences that underpin them. While empirical observations are essential in establishing cause-and-effect within the physical realm, grasping logical consequences, which may extend into metaphysical domains, requires a different mode of reasoning. The distinction between these two is pivotal for a comprehensive understanding that goes beyond mere observation.
PPOPER PHILOSOPHIZING
@Seremonia
That is the need for rational and objective philosophy based on logical consequences. It's just that they generally find it difficult to distinguish the boundaries that are considered blurry between cause and effect and consequence
Exactly, establishing a rational and objective philosophy based on logical consequences is crucial. The challenge often arises from the perceived blur between cause-and-effect relationships rooted in empirical observations and the broader logical consequences that may extend beyond the immediate realm of observation. Clearing this conceptual boundary is essential for a more nuanced and comprehensive understanding of both the physical and metaphysical aspects of reality.
PHILOSOPHICAL EQUALITY - With Physics & Mathematics
If one is able to philosophize rationally and objectively, it is akin to positioning philosophy on par with physics and mathematics. Where physics and mathematics have modular formulas that can be synchronized among physicists and mathematicians.
Then philosophy, with its many logical consequence formulas, is also able to synergize scientifically (and even surpass) with physicists and mathematicians.
Indeed, a rational and objective approach to philosophy, akin to the modular formulas in physics and mathematics, allows for a cohesive and synergistic relationship.
Philosophy, grounded in logical consequence formulas, can align and even surpass other scientific disciplines, contributing to a more unified and comprehensive understanding of the intricacies of reality. This interconnectedness highlights the potential for a holistic integration of philosophical reasoning with the rigor of scientific methodologies.
