What is real?
Degree of reality … How far we can determine thing is so real?
We use an example with five senses (or whether we have more than five senses), and because of these we can perceive things.
We don’t know the farthest boundary of something, we just know something because we perceive it as far as ourselves.
If there is “thing”, then this “thing” is as far as “thing” limits our perceptions. Or ‘thing” is as far as we can perceive a part of “thing” itself.
If we saw “a stone” then we perceive “a stone” through our seeing. This was one of the way we could perceive “a stone”. But for someone else which could perceive even wider, by seeing and touching “a stone”, then “a stone” will become more realistic than for someone that could only perceive “a stone” through seeing.
This is what i call “degree of reality” for ourselves. “A stone” is a “thing”, but it has different degree of acceptance to our perception which may differ to others. And different degree of perceiving something has relation with different consequences.
For someone that has no ability to perceive “a stone” for the rest of their life but only by seeing ” a stone”, then someone can only perceive “a stone” AS REAL AS FAR AS the level of seeing with the consequences that relevant to “seeing”.
It asserts that if we perceive something within dream realm through touching and even more, then we are already being limited by this thing, then this thing must be considered as reality, in the sense that, part of ourselves can be limited by the consequences of it, relevantly.
Somehow, if we are limited by a thing AT LEAST with the same consequences (whether through reality or illusion), then actually there is no different in between reality and illusion, including dream realm (in the sense that illusion is another reality).
So, which one is more real? “thing” within dream realm or “thing” on our waking life? Actually it depends on how far for the “thing” in between both realm can limit our perception.
If “thing” in between both realms can limit our perception (whether we can see it or we can touch it or even more) then the “thing” is as real as it “thing”.
What makes us degrading dream realm, it’s because our life is mostly within our waking life rather than on dream realm.
If somehow we are living within dream realm even longer, then eventually we will anticipate the consequences within dream realm by making adjustment on our interaction on dream realm. At this stage, we may consider that “thing” in this dream realm is real in the sense that our actions can be limited by it’s consequences within dream realm. And we will take the consequences within dream realm seriously. thing is real as far as how far we can perceive it.
So, rather than admitting “thing” as real as measured by empirical experience on our waking life, better we admit “thing” as far as the “thing” can limit us in any possible means to our perception. This acceptance will put us on condition where we can consider any possible things, relevantly and we can (adjust by) take(ing) appropriate responses.
Rather than considering there is illusion, we better assert that (it’s another reality and) there is only reality as far as we can perceive it. It’s degree of reality. Sure, we can use the term “illusion”, but at least we know the truth (proper) understanding behind it, to make us to be able to anticipate different realm properly.
To the farthest extent it must not beyond “not nothingness”. In the sense, we must only use this term according to the way we perceive differently however we consider having specific senses to sense it. But the point is whether it’s the real one, or different kind of realm, but it must be able to be perceived, however it is.
What makes different in between supernatural and else, is that both have different approach to be perceived. And as long as both could limit our perception differently, then both are real to the specific extent depending on how we perceive it.
So, we can’t blame to someone saying supernatural is real, as long as they can perceive it differently. The problem is on ourselves while we didn’t explore or validate our possibilities to perceive such supernatural. Otherwise we could judge whether this kind of reality (supernatural) cold be categorized into different kind of reality with different degree of it. It’s not about stating whether supernatural mostly nonsense or not, but it’s about the fact that whatever it is as long as we could perceive however it is, then it’s real to the specific extent.
IMPOSSIBILITY OF REALITY
So, anything whether physically or not, if somehow we could perceive differently, or in other axiomatically understanding, if somehow physically or supernatural or any kind of thing could limit our perception, or in other words, we are aware of being limited by a thing (whether supernatural or else), then it’s real to the specific extent.
What is “real"? Real is, what limits us